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>>> BUT FIRST, MS. ROGERS CAN'T GET HER FOOT OUT OF HER MOUTH:

10:32am

Kimball Rogers

I do not take it personally. But I am not one to continue an unending argument at every turn. Better to be thought a fool and keep one's mouth shut, than to argue and remove all doubt. I hope you are in the holy spirit of Jesus. It is not mine to judge either way. But I prefer not to be in combat with you at every posting. Life is to short for that, and I choose for it to be as enjoyable as possible.
11:18am
Scott Kenan
I'm sorry to see that your grammar skills are so bad that you wrote claiming that if you continued to argue you would show you are a fool. I doubt you meant that, but I agree with you nevertheless. And I might do that too, but THAT, I doubt.

There is no evidence on your Facebook page or comments that you actually enjoy life much. You seem like a prematurely dried up, bitter woman.

12:38pm

Kimball Rogers

I am a main stream Methodist in the Wesleyan tradition. You can not possibly know what does or does not bring me joy (merely projecting your own pitiful life). You spend your time trying to fracture relationships rather than build them. A sad commentary that you cannot discuss without resorting to name-calling and (ass)umptions. No one who knows me would say I am bitter toward anything. You simply love to argue (about anything) taking the opposite side to get some sick satisfaction at reactions. You have not read many of my comments on facebook as you are not in my circle of friends (I WAS, until Kimball un-friended me, yesterday -- LOL!!!), nor have you taken the time to read my posts. Just looking to aggravate for fun...very perverse. Your lack of knowledge of me shows in your rants and posts...a game which I will no longer engage in. Find someone else to harass.

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>>> AND NOW THE WHITE FOUNDING FATHERS:

What many forget is that the "Founding Fathers" of the United States were nearly all Deists, who believe:

noun

belief in the existence of a God on the evidence of reason and nature only, with rejection ofsupernatural revelation (distinguished from theism ).

belief in a God who created the world but has since remained indifferent to it.

This is the OPPOSITE of the idea of a "Personal God", as promoted by today's Conservative Christians, who could be called Theists. Click the link above for definition (which is not as clear, so you should google the subject, too).

And all but about three who were in the Continental Congress (probably the very few Catholics, who at that time became Masons on "Pain of Mortal Sin"), belonged to Masonic Lodges. Freemasonry DOMINATED American Politics until surprisingly recently.

Masonic Hall (1899), Wilmington, North Carolina is now known mostly for the flagship Port City Java in the retail space to the left.

Dennis Hopper bought the Masonic Lodge when he fell in love with Wilmington while filming BLUE VELVET.

Click image to see fully.

http://www.amazon.com/Velvet-Special-Edition-Isabella-Rossellini/dp/B000063JDE

And I, of course, met Thomas S. Kenan III's most recent long-term lover, Curtis "Robbie" Anderson, and dated him myself -- Robbie a music and band teacher in Burgaw, NC, who lived in William R. Kenan, Jr.-built Carolina Apartments that overlooks Kenan Fountain in Kenan Plaza, in 1985 while the movie was being filmed and the building's sign was covered with one that said "DEEP RIVER APARTMENTS" for the filming.

What is Free Masonry and what do Free Masons believe?

This is a very fair article by a Conservative Christian who condemns freemasonry in illogical and SUPER-HOOTIE ways. http://www.gotquestions.org/free-masonry.html

Question: "What is Free Masonry and what do Free Masons believe?"

Answer:Freemasonry,Eastern Star, and other similar "secret" organizations appear to be harmless fellowship gatherings. Many of them appear to promote belief in God. However, upon closer examination, we find that the only belief requirement is not that one must believe in the True and Living God, but rather, that one must believe in the existence of a “Supreme Being”, which includes the “gods” of Islam, Hinduism, or any other world religion. The unbiblical and anti-Christian beliefs and practices of this organization are partially hidden beneath an outward appearance of a supposed compatibility with the Christian faith. The following is a comparison of what the Bible says with the "official" position of Freemasonry:

Salvation from Sin:

The Bible’s View: Jesus became the sinner’s sacrifice before God when He shed His blood and died as the propitiation (payment) for the sins of all those who would ever believe (Ephesians 2:8-9,Romans 5:8,John 3:16).

Mason’s View: The very process of joining the Lodge requires Christians to ignore the exclusivity of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. According to Freemasonry, a person will be saved and go to heaven as a result of his good works and personal self-improvement.

The View of the Bible:

The Bible’s View: The supernatural and plenary inspiration of the Scriptures—that they are inerrant and that their teachings and authority are absolute, supreme, and final. The Bible is the Word of God (2 Timothy 3:16,1 Thessalonians 2:13).

Mason’s View: The Bible is only one of several “Volume(s) of Sacred Law,” all of which are deemed to be equally important in Freemasonry. The Bible is an important book, only as far as those members who claim to be Christians are concerned, just as the Koran is important to Muslims. The Bible is not considered to be the exclusive Word of God, nor is it considered to be God’s sole revelation of himself to humankind; but only one of many religious sourcebooks. It is a good guide for morality. The Bible is used primarily as a symbol of God’s will, which can also be captured in other sacred texts, like the Koran or Rig Vedas.

The Doctrine of God:

The Bible’s View: There is one God. The various names of God refer to the God of Israel and reveal certain attributes of God. To worship other gods or to call upon other deities is idolatry (Exodus 20:3). Paul spoke of idolatry as a heinous sin (1 Corinthians 10:14) and John said that idolaters will perish in hell (Revelation 21:8).

Mason’s View: All members must believe in a deity. Different religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.) acknowledge the same God, only call Him different names. Freemasonry invites people of all faiths, even if they use different names for the ‘Nameless One of a hundred names,’ they are yet praying to the one God and Father of all.

The Doctrine of Jesus and the Trinity:

The Bible’s View: Jesus was God in human form (Matthew 1:18-24,John 1:1). Jesus is the second person of the trinity (Matthew 28:19,Mark 1:9-11). While on earth, He was fully human (Mark 4:38,Matthew 4:2) and fully divine (John 20:28,John 1:1-2,Acts 4:10-12). Christians should pray in Jesus’ name and proclaim Him before others, regardless of offense to non-Christians (John 14:13-14,1 John 2:23,Acts 4:18-20).

Mason’s View: There is no exclusivity in Jesus Christ or the Triune God who is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; therefore there is no doctrine of the deity of Jesus Christ. It is deemed to be un-Masonic to invoke the name of Jesus when praying, or mention His name in the Lodge. Suggesting that Jesus is the only way to God contradicts the principle of tolerance. The name of Jesus has been omitted from biblical verses that are used in Masonic rituals. Jesus is on the same level as other religious leaders.

Human Nature and Sin:

The Bible’s View: All humans are born with a sinful nature, are totally depraved, and need a Savior from sin (Romans 3:23,Romans 5:12,Psalm 51:5,Ephesians 2:1). The Bible denies that because of the Fall, humanity has within itself the capacity for moral perfection (1 John 1:8-10,Romans 1:18-25).

Mason’s View: Through symbols and emblems, Masons teach that man is not sinful, just “rude and imperfect by nature”. Human beings are able to improve their character and behavior in various ways, including acts of charity, moral living, and voluntary performance of civic duty. Humanity possesses the ability of moving from imperfection toward total perfection. Moral and spiritual perfection lies within men and women.

When a Christian takes the oath of Freemasonry, he is swearing to the following doctrines that God has pronounced false and sinful:

1. That salvation can be gained by man’s good works.
2. That Jesus is just one of many equally revered prophets.
3. That they will remain silent in the Lodge and not talk of Christ.
4. That they are approaching the Lodge in spiritual darkness and ignorance, when the Bible says Christians are already in the light, children of the light, and are indwelt by the Light of the World—Jesus Christ.
5. By demanding that Christians take the Masonic oath, Masonry leads Christians into blasphemy and taking the name of the Lord in vain.
6. Masonry teaches that its G.A.O.T.U. [Great Architect of the Universe], whom Masonry believes is the true God of the universe, is representative of all gods in all religions.
7. Masonry makes Christians take a universalist approach in their prayers, demanding a “generic” name be used so as not to offend non-believers who are Masonic “brothers”.
8. By swearing the Masonic oath and participating in the doctrines of the Lodge, Christians are perpetuating a false gospel to other Lodge members, who look only to Masonry’s plan of salvation to get to heaven. By their very membership in such a syncretistic type organization, they have severely compromised their witnessing as Christians.
9. By taking the Masonic obligation, the Christian is agreeing to allow the pollution of his mind, spirit, and body by those who serve false gods and believe false doctrines.

As you can see, Masonry denies and contradicts the clear teaching of Scripture and numerous issues. Masonry also requires people to engage in activities which the Bible condemns. As a result, a Christian should not be a member of any secret society or organization that has any connection with Freemasonry.

Again, for more information, we strongly recommendEx-Masons for Jesus.

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/free-masonry.html#ixzz36cHTqund

>>> AND FINALLY, HERE ARE THE TEN FOUNDING FATHER QUOTES, http://aattp.org/9-founding-fathers-quotes-that-will-make-conservatives-heads-explode/:

Conservatives insist their cruel and unworkable agenda is sanctioned by America’s Founding Fathers. As with their similar claims about Jesus Christ wanting America to oppress the poor and help the wealthy, these claims are blatantly false. The following 10 quotes prove this.

The Founding Fathers on regulating corporations.

1. “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
– Thomas Jefferson, 1802 letter to Secretary of State Albert Gallatin.

2. “I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
– Thomas Jefferson.

3. “The power of all corporations ought to be limited, [...] the growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.”
– James Madison

The Founding Fathers on war.

4. “He who is the author of a war, lets loose the whole contagion of hell, and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death.”
– Thomas Paine: The Crisis No. V, 1797

5. “War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.” -Thomas Jefferson

The Founding Fathers on liberalism.

6. “As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” — George Washington

The Founding Fathers on religion.

7. “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

8. “We have abundant reason to rejoice that in this Land the light of truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition… In this enlightened Age and in this Land of equal liberty it is our boast, that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the Laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest Offices that are known in the United States.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the members of the New Church in Baltimore, January 27, 1793

9. “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814

The Founding Fathers on taxes.

10. “As to Taxes, they are evidently inseparable from Government. It is impossible without them to pay the debts of the nation, to protect it from foreign danger, or to secure individuals from lawless violence and rapine.” –= Alexander Hamilton: Address to the Electors of the State of New York, March, 1801

Paying your appropriate share of taxes is one of the most Patriotic things you can do.

Even Jesus chimed in. From Luke: "Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." 26And they were unable to catch Him in a saying in the presence of the people; and being amazed at His answer, they became silent.

Confirmed in Mark: Then he said to them, "So give back to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."